Christian Evolution?

At church a few weeks back, the pastor's sermon made some interesting points about Christians and evolution. I just want to share them here:

If you, a Christian, believe in evolution, do you believe that God created you? If God did not create you, what purpose does He have sending His son to save you - someone He did not create?

Jesus, our Creator, had to die for us because He was responsible for creating us. So either the Creator pays or evolution pays.

Search for "Creation," 8/19/09 on the Reaching Your Heart website.

Did Jesus always exist?
And for some reason, I recall a sermon from a few months back which answers the question "Did Jesus always exist? Did God the Father create Jesus at some later time?" If Jesus has a beginning where he was created sometime between "negative infinity" and some point before or at the creation of the earth, then that would mean God existed at some point without Jesus and God didn't really give a part of Himself when He sent His only son to die for us. Any created being, such as angels, could have died for us if that were the case.




Thus, Jesus, like God the Father, has always existed. "...before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me" - Isaiah 43:10b.



I have to find the link for this sermon...

Battle of the Bibles & Changing the Word.

We recommend DVDs Battle of the Bibles and Changing the Word by Professor Veith.

We found this SO interesting... comparing the KJV with the NIV & RSV!

The following verses are NOT found in the NIV & RSV; but, they are found in the KJV.

Matt 17:21, 18:11, 23:14
Mark 7:16, 9:44, 9:46, 11:26, 15:28
Luke 17:36, 23:17
John 5:4
Acts 8:37, 15:34, 24:6-8, 28:29
Romans 16:24
I Tim 2:7

II Tim 4:22

In the DVD, Veith compares the KJV with NIV & RSV. He then explains the differences between the verses... and I was just amazed. Why does this matter? Well, removing or modifying certain verses make it hard/impossible to prove that Jesus is the fulfillment of prophecy... and Jesus' diety!

Compare also 1 John 5:7. It would be difficult/impossible to prove the trinity in the NIV, but not the KJV.

Here are some modified verses you can compare for yourself:

1 Cor 15:34, Job 26:5, Matthew 1:16 & 25, 24:36, Mark 2:17, 10:21, Luke 4:4, 9:55-56, 11:2, John 5:39, 16:23, Acts 13:42, 16:7, Ephes 3:9, Col 1:15-16, 2 Tim 4:1, Heb 11:3, I Peter 1:22, Rev 14:5

I highly recommend the DVDs!

Or watch on YouTube. This is just Part 1 of the second DVD: